Self-Worth with Jaclyn Steele

Ikigai and the reason for living with Owen Hunt (Bootsy Greenwood)

November 10, 2021 Jaclyn Steele Season 2 Episode 94
Self-Worth with Jaclyn Steele
Ikigai and the reason for living with Owen Hunt (Bootsy Greenwood)
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Purpose. Life. What are we here for? - This is what we chat today with Ikigai student and coach, Owen Hunt. Maybe, just maybe, we are already doing exactly what we were created for…

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Unknown:

It's not even what you do. It's who you do it with. It doesn't even matter really. So, there's so much to that. And I don't know, I wish I as something as simple and obvious as just feeling good in your body. I mean, I, I can't like I think we intuitively know it. You know what I mean? And but constantly the world is trying to get us to go into fear.

Jaclyn Steele:

Hi, I am Jaclyn Steele. And welcome to self discovery. Howard Thurman so beautifully wrote, don't ask what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive, and go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive, coming alive. That my friends is what self discovery is all where that man ah, listeners today on self discovery, we have one of my favorite people in the whole world, somebody that I've known for five or six years now, and he is a comedian. He is a podcaster. He is a teacher. He's a coach. He is an all around. Delightful, like truly delightful, funny kind of human being. Today on the podcast, we have Owen hunt, also known as Bootsy Greenwood.

Unknown:

Hey, Jaclyn. Wow, you make me sound just made me sound like, like a good time. I appreciate that.

Jaclyn Steele:

Evil are a good time. You're such a good time. I mean, I think back to we've known each other now for like five or six years. How crazy is that?

Unknown:

It's crazy. I can't believe it's been that long. But I think that is right. Yeah. Because Wow.

Jaclyn Steele:

But since the first time I met you, and the first time we hung out at Hendre shots, coffee, I was like, this dude isn't my jam. Like, I just love him so much. Well, I got to add that you're a producer in there, too. And position and such a monumental creative? Well,

Unknown:

I'm doing my best to really, you know, dive deep into that. And I'm really passionate now about exploring creativity through authenticity, you know, and, and really trying to get a better idea of who I am, you know, like the work, it doesn't stop and meeting you. It was the same way. I was like, this person's awesome. She totally gets it. You know, I see how and, and sort of Sam. And so we you know, we all immediately start sharing books and ideas and you know, different, you know, I like I just yeah, it was immediately needed to happen. We've come both a long way, though, in that five years.

Jaclyn Steele:

Yeah. But speaking of authenticity, and using creativity to be authentic, I feel like you do that so beautifully. Because you're a strong dude. But you also have this side of you that is not afraid of being vulnerable, and open and brutally honest with yourself and with others. And I feel like that something really, really unique about you. And today, I want to pick your brain about something you're passionate about, which is iki. Guy. So for the listeners who don't know what that is, if you could tell us what iki guy is and why you became so passionate about it.

Unknown:

Yeah, so I've randomly heard of IKI guy actually, after I read the reality Tran surfing book. And he talks in that book about uniting your heart and mind and being in balance being congruent, you know, and what a big difference that makes. He says in that book, that if you find your goal, then your life becomes a celebration. I want to take that. Yeah, I love that. I love it is so

Jaclyn Steele:

gorgeous. If you find your goal, then your life becomes a celebration.

Unknown:

Exactly. And so me full body chills I it always it always does me too. I mean, it's a it's a it's a fantastic book, but to take that even deeper, I don't think he's talking about like some attainable goal, like making a record or writing a book or no, it's about finding, you know something about yourself, you know, the purpose the mission that you have your reason why. And I think that's where iki guy really comes in. And it's a great tool to to be able to suss that out. But I think that basically it's the same thing. He's just saying the word goal and from from this model from my mind to make it make sense to You know, we are on this path, you know, to, you know, to to a larger goal. And then along that goal, there's, you know, many other goals that we're accomplishing all the way, you know, they're just milestones, they're just markers. And then we keep, we keep moving forward, you know, down that path. And it does give us a reason why it's like, let's say that you had everything you wanted all the money and things, right? Materially, everything is taken care of. Why do you get out of bed in the morning? You know,

Jaclyn Steele:

it's an it's like, using life as our art. Instead of, like you said, having an end goal of like, creating a song which both you and I have done or creating a reading material with, which both you and I have done or podcast episode. It's about from what I understand using your life as your art and allowing that to feel the joy rather than one specific thing or person or place.

Unknown:

Yeah, yeah, it's it's Japanese philosophy, for a reason for being a reason for being so you know, a purpose, a reason for being. And I like to just make that really simple and work with people on like, creating kind of like a purpose statement, even something that could ground you back to why you're here and what you're doing. So that even if things get wild, because here's what does happen to whenever you start to pursue a sincere goal is the universe totally comes to your aid. Yeah. If you can align your heart and mind and start to walk in in that path. Then yeah, there's gonna be some magic will magic will follow,

Jaclyn Steele:

right? I've experienced it so many times. And you and I've experienced in the studio, I mean, like, Yeah, that's so true. It's,

Unknown:

I was having dinner with a friend of mine the other night, and I mean, he, he's so funny. He was like, dude, every time I spend my last dollar magic happens. You know, the way he lives, his life is beautiful. But it does. I mean, magic follows him everywhere he goes, You know, he's on the road and a van, you know, setting up gongs, and having people come in and doing sound healings in all over the place, and he's making it happen, you know?

Jaclyn Steele:

Beautiful, yeah, being

Unknown:

and being, you know, I don't know, being in the pot, people call it flow. You know, this is a, I would say, a side effect from understanding this about ourselves, you know, we get into a state, where we really enjoy the process of what we're doing. And by falling in love with the process, the output is almost always better as a result of that, too. Because it's, it's less about that and more about doing the thing, right. And so, yeah, coming back around, like, why do I do things I do, why am I here? Why am I doing this? Because for me, you know, my, I think I have kind of layers. Everybody has a model. And so like I like to work with, I like to work with people and in where they're at, because in my mind, you've got like, postmodern, it's like, well, you could sort of believe whatever you want to believe. And that's fine, too, if you want to come at it from that angle, if you want to want to say I have some divine purpose, and it's all new agey and woowoo. And, you know, religious, almost, or if you want to say, Look, I'm just gonna make it up. I don't think it matters. But I think there's a you know, either way, you can find something that feels in sits right with you, and then build that out in the model being like, you have like a specific purpose. And I try to make that as simple as possible.

Jaclyn Steele:

Yeah, like, can you give us an example of what that would be? Sure.

Unknown:

So for me, it's to bring other people joy. I can't help but think of Steve Martin every time I say like, almost motional purpose, but I can't help myself. But yeah, for me, it's to bring people joy, right. And so here's how I kind of see that, because I consider myself to be a jack of all trades. And that's not a bad thing, right? Because within everything that I do, I can bring that purpose to it. And so that's the whole idea is infusing who we really are like, what our essence is into the activity into the action into the project. And we can kind of form that into a container, I can be at the grocery store, and make a be silly with a kid in line or I can, you know, be on stage telling jokes, you know, and, you know, just talking about doing a tank talk, you know, on stage and just going with that and bringing joy to the room, you know, I could be in a room with family members or making a YouTube video or a punk or whatever. And I can try and if I can be conscious and mindful of that, that can be a trigger for me to help me, you know, ground into myself be who I really am and give my gift. And I think that's kind of the beginning of But where I think we get hung up, is we want a role in society to fulfill our purpose. And it just doesn't work that way, don't we? Hmm, yeah, we want to be like I'm an actor or a cheerleader or an astronaut. That's that that has nothing to do with who you really are. And so I think we have to, like, begin to cast that away, like this ego identification, and realize that, and that's really the key to because I think people think they're going to pigeon holed themselves, whenever they figure it out. They're like, Oh, no, if I figure it out, then I'll have to do this one thing, and I'll be one dimensional, but it's actually the complete opposite. Yeah. Because you can bring that to so many different, you know,

Jaclyn Steele:

there's the whole playing field. Yeah,

Unknown:

yeah, there's a second part of that jack of all trades thing that you don't hear the full quote, you only hear the first part of it is jack of all trades, master of none. But off times better than Masse road one.

Jaclyn Steele:

Nobody says the last part. Yep. Nobody says last part. So what I'm deriving from what you're saying is that iki guy in so many ways, is like a portal into presence. And for me, and it's so of course, it's perfect that we're talking at this point in time, because so many of the things that you are chatting on are what I have been really meditating on. And one of them is presence. I am so content, when I am present, I'm happy, I'm joy filled, when I am present, it is when I am tripping about the past, or worrying about the future or wanting for something I don't have yet that I am out of alignment, and not in a place of peace. But when I think about everything I have in the moment, or the mission I want to bring to life, which I feel like is my iki guy, which I think is I'd like to put it into one sentence. But really, what I think my talent is, is to inject beauty. And what I mean by that is like, whether it's a song or a writing or a podcast, or interior design work, it's putting this high frequency into the physical realm that hopefully will make people feel at peace and loved and cared for.

Unknown:

Well, I think that I think that really shows through everything you do. I mean, I think that that element really is you know, I see it in all the things that you do. So that's that you just I think you just nailed it spot on with that, to beautify, you know, like to inject beauty thing, that's, that's great.

Jaclyn Steele:

It just, I'm such a my surroundings affect how I feel so deeply. And when I'm listening to something beautiful, or looking at something beautiful, beautiful, or I'm out in nature, I feel it in my bones. And I feel like it recalibrates my whole system. So when you are working with a client and going over iki guy, can you kind of go through some of the steps and like your pathway process for helping people figure this out and really like disseminate it into something that they can chew on.

Unknown:

Sure, absolutely. I can make it really simple because I don't really believe in withholding information, or any of that name,

Jaclyn Steele:

which is also why we get along so well. We have shared like encyclopedias worth of information with each other over the years. It's the best and I still don't know what reality is. Oh my gosh, I will just spit out my water.

Unknown:

Clue bro. I'm sorry. Can I curse on here? I

Jaclyn Steele:

totally agree. 100% You get to be your authentic self because that's been here.

Unknown:

I appreciate that don't curse a lot as my authentic self but it does come out I'm not a dice. You know what I mean? I'm like, more like a Spanish woman in a lumberjacks body. It's kind of

Jaclyn Steele:

you really are. I love passionate and fiery

Unknown:

I do love Latin culture. Oh, good. Um, yeah. So one of the biggest and best tricks for me that I learned was actually from Steve pavlina. And I think I don't know what happened to him, but he was a really awesome kind of self help type of person maybe 10 or so. years ago, I'd say, I think he got into just something else or whatever and stop doing it. But one of his best tricks for this is to just sit down with a piece of paper. And for about 30 minutes, write what you think your purpose might be. And it doesn't matter. No, all bets are off just free go, there's no wrong answer. And just give it a give it a session, and then if nothing comes up, that strikes you, then try it again, it's not a big deal. Don't put a lot of pressure on yourself. But when you write something down, that makes you cry, then that's your purpose. And so that's been my experience. I've only had a couple clients who were like, I don't really cry, you know, actually, Latin women, if we're being honest. Like, I don't really cry, I'm like, okay. But I mean, but the idea is that you really resonate with it, right? Like, whatever that is, and I think hits that heart string. Yes. And I think that's a real insight to, to hearing ourselves internally, and following that inner guide, over and over again, because it feels like it's congruent with that repeatably, then I think that we can, you know, kind of deduce that we're following the breadcrumb trail properly, so to speak. And, yeah, and I see it going a lot deeper. But that's, that's the beginning for me, you can take the iki guy, symbol, and you can journal about each one of those things, you know, what do you like doing? What can you be paid for? What does the world need? What are you good at? And then you can take the opposite of those things, you can flip it, and you can say, What do I not like to do? What does the world not need? You know,

Jaclyn Steele:

and sometimes that is a great jumping off point, if you are struggling are stuck on what the world needs and what you're good at and what you could make money doing?

Unknown:

Absolutely. Look at the other side of it. And there's nothing wrong with that, you know, I think a lot of spiritual ways we got to get into this super positive, which is nothing wrong with with that. But there's, there's nothing wrong with acknowledging what you don't like about something and being completely honest,

Jaclyn Steele:

and being positive all the time is not real. No, it's not, you know what I mean. And I think that's something that I think about too, with the way that I show up, like on social media, because in thinking about what we're talking about before we hit record was like how other people perceive you. And I think I have a tendency to only show up publicly when I'm feeling good. And if I'm not feeling good, I am a hermit. So like, for the first trimester of my pregnancy, when I was sick every day, and sad and hormonal, and like, sometimes depressed, I was like, I don't want to share this, I don't want to bring that into the world. But at the same time, I'm not always positive, I'm not always having a good day. And I don't want people to think that I'm all I would say most of the time, that is my, my like, I'm a pretty energetic happy person, but not all the time. So that's not authentic.

Unknown:

It's not and I mean, to me, the goal is to feel as good as possible. Frankly, I can't think of anything better than that, like just feeling, you know, connected, connected to whatever you want to call this, you know, because you're not able to separate yourself from it anyways. But just embracing that connection and feeling better and better and better. And that's I think, how the whole manifestation thing really works is you feel good percent,

Jaclyn Steele:

that frequency, that high frequency attracts high frequency. And when I think about it from a macro level, too, I feel like that's how we change the world. We change the world by changing ourselves. And we change ourselves by elevating the frequency at which we operate. And we elevate the frequency at which we operate by aligning with our purpose. That thing that does tug on our heart string or heart chord, and really bring up that tearful kind of emotion like, wow, if that could be my life, it would be a life well lived. Mm hmm. And it can be your life. Absolutely. It

Unknown:

can be. Yeah, that's the amazing thing about it, is that it really can be I think it should be like that should be the goal. I think once we figure that out how important the feeling is, then it makes it possible to choose, you know, and it's not it's that's part of choosing, it's not choosing like well, I want this specific thing to happen to you know, hit this this part of the mouse trap and then a hammer is gonna come down and you know, it's like, dude, no, no, no, get your mind out of it, and take the steps that you need to take ache like take action. Sure, absolutely. But feel good. And that's your birthright, it's your birthright to like feel good in your body. And the way that we can shift is by literally taking that good feeling and then broadcasting it writing, writing and elsewhere. You know, let's focus on what we can do what we can build together as a community, how we can improve the certain things and actions that we can take, instead of getting swept up in the horror of the moment. Right? How important attention is, it's not that this isn't going on over here. It's not about denial, or putting your head in the sand, it's just about it doesn't matter what's going on. You know, that inner Guardian, and blocking that out the emotions from it, and using your real emotions that are coming from source you know, at the cause of all things and being at the cause and being an actual creator.

Jaclyn Steele:

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Unknown:

you Yeah, that's a really good question. You know, um, I think everybody's in a different place. And there's a great map for vibration or feeling or states of consciousness by David Hawkins. And if you look at that map, it's unreal. Like, it's a big part of it's the basis for really, everything you know, that I, where I start with people is that particular map of consciousness, and kind of understanding that everyone who's experiencing life is finding themselves somewhere on that scale. Now, that doesn't mean that you're in that place all the time. But in we're constantly ping pong, like you said, there are valleys, right? Like, um, you know, for somebody who's in a difficult place, like if you're in, if you're, if you're in depression, you actually need to get to anger, right, and then anger, you know, you can get into, into courage. And then once you get into courage, you can really start to step into some of the higher levels of consciousness. Above that I would call I think, whatever is above, whatever is above courage, courage is yellow, and the correspond your chakras to when you look at this. When you look at this map, you'll see the correspondence and chakra colors starts at the bottom, it's red, and then it goes up. But getting into past courage is trust and confidence in the universe. And that's really the beginning of, I guess, you know, whatever you want to call it, you know, the trust fall with the universe, the inevitable trust, follow the universe, that you know that the world is a mirror, and it's going to reflect us, but we got to get up to that level before we can be ready. There's no sense in trying to jump up three or four levels, you know, so I think acceptance is

Jaclyn Steele:

ruins people's pitfall. Two is we want to go from depression, to happiness overnight,

Unknown:

to millionaire with my Twin Flame overnight.

Jaclyn Steele:

Yes, yes. And while I never want to limit the miraculousness of God in the universe, that is not generally how I've seen it play out in my life experience. There are all of these tiny, tiny tweaks like going to the chiropractor, and it's one vertebrae at a time to get you to those different levels. So how do you encourage people to keep going? What I'm finding right now is, there is such a blanket of fear across I mean, globally, but especially in the United States, with all these mandates with what's happening politically, what's happening with the supply chain. I mean, it is like fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear. And I think there's this undercurrent, with a lot of people that are like, Well, why should I even try anything? Right? How do you encourage somebody to flip that script and take their own lives into their own hands, and empower them?

Unknown:

Well, the truth is, I don't have to, because you can only live like that for so long before you're like, all right. I think about giving up all the time, but I know what's gonna happen if I do, would it be like, damn, I gave up now I'm bored. And I don't know what to do with myself, you know, like, I will encourage those people, of course, I encourage them to do just the next thing and to begin just asking questions. For anybody who's in a difficult place, it's really about acceptance and letting go I know that might sound counterintuitive. And it probably is, but that's the truth of it. It's not about creating some fake million per, you know, layer of icing over, you know, whatever your situation is, that's not going to help. I don't want anybody doing that. You know, letting go by David Hawkins is a great book,

Jaclyn Steele:

you gave that book to me, it's such a good book.

Unknown:

And it outlines a little bit of a process of letting stuff go, or even finding somebody to work with who can help with trauma, you know, which is one of the things that, you know, I've learned a little bit about and I focus on a tremendous amount with myself and my clients because it opens up space. And I think that's what's kind of going on is we blocked so many parts of ourselves out, we've shut parts of ourselves out and said no to things that we actually like or identify with, for whatever reason, shame, usually it has to do with one of the five soul wounds but you know, we do all that right? And so now that there's just less space think of like constricting, you know, like a vein or something like that. We said no, and shut ourselves out to so many things. We have to allow ourselves to open up, release that trauma, and then you open up I think more space where you can really elevate the way that you feel

Jaclyn Steele:

like in my experience and let me know your experience too. I feel like the fear of facing the pain Have my own trauma was way worse than actually facing it and walking through it. Mm hmm. So, yeah, yeah. Yeah,

Unknown:

I think I just think you're here to do is to sit down with myself. Even after knowing all of this stuff, I still distract.

Jaclyn Steele:

Oh my gosh, right? Isn't one of the hardest things to do to sit for five minutes and just be quiet, especially if you're not at peace with yourself. I feel like when I'm in periods where I'm at total peace with myself, I crave that kind of silence, even just driving in the car with nothing on nobody in there. Can you touch on the soul wounds? Because I love this concept of I think it's such a beautiful concept of saying, Okay, I'm carrying this pain, I may have these soul wounds. But if I go in and clean house, so to speak, I'm going to create all of this space that I can fill with whatever incredible things I want to. So what are those soul wounds? And what are maybe what's maybe like a tool you use for cleaning house cleaning side of house? All right,

Unknown:

cool. There are lots of tools, I could refer you to a friend of mine who's incredibly adept at, like tons of techniques and things like that. But what a great question, the five soul wounds is taken directly from Lisa verbos book, heal your wounds and find your true self making an audio book of that right now. Which I'll share privately. Because it's really for my clients, because there doesn't exist one yet. But yeah, so I think that we all basically interpret reality through at least one of these five wounds, right, and we put on a mask, whatever, to show that we are not actually feeling the basically the we put on a mask to hide it, right? Like, yeah, I don't want to

Jaclyn Steele:

showing up fully as ourselves.

Unknown:

So over time, you know, saying no, to ourselves and sort of pushing this part of ourselves, our psyche, really into the back, you know, the corner of the shadow, you know, this stuff, it doesn't just go away, right? No, I'll give a really I'll try to give a really simple example because I'm trying to be I try to make things as simple and concise as possible, maybe doesn't always seem that way. But I'll try and blue collar mystic this. I had a part of me that I was not okay with when I was 15. I really liked Dave Matthews Band. Okay, this is a silly example, too. And I couldn't show that to my friends because they would have made fun of me because it wasn't, you know, a gangsta, you know, whatever it was, tank dog salute back in those days, you know, outcast or eight ball or MJg or whatever. Then when I got into college and started doing rock and roll, as you know, like heavier rock still couldn't express that. I liked that. So I shut that part of myself out. And when I started doing some of this work, actually, earlier this summer, when I really kind of got into this stuff. I one day was at brunch with my dad, my brother was like, Hey, man, we're gonna go to a concert on Tuesday for dad's birthday. You want to go and like, sure. Dave Matthews Band.

Jaclyn Steele:

Of course, you manifested it, dude,

Unknown:

I just walked right into. And so I go to this concert. I'm having all the fields. I'm having memories coming back. You know what I'm saying? I need to and I can say that now before there was a stigma around it where I was. I didn't allow myself for everybody else. It's like, do you

Jaclyn Steele:

like the band? Are you too mainstream for your friend group?

Unknown:

Yeah, I just I was my soul wound is shame. So I'm always afraid, you know, someone's gonna make fun of me or alienate me or Outcast me and my whole life has been experiences like that, for instance. They miss they miss spelled my name in the yearbook. Right? Oh, and hunt. Yeah, the worst house you can imagine

Jaclyn Steele:

on that? How did they misspell

Unknown:

howling? I've got to find it. Because I've got a whole sketch in mind for it. But you know, so many things have happened that really emphasize that experience. And other people might experience those blessing situations differently. Like they would interpret them more through their own wounds. But generally speaking, like you're going to have one that is dominant there that you're healing in this lifetime, or, you know, whatever, however, all that sort of plays. But by going to that concert and being exposed to that it allowed me to accept that part of myself that I had previously shut out as a soul fragment. It sounds so fancy in the New Age woowoo, like ancestral trauma. It's like, we use too big of a word sometimes. And I that's I want to try to simplify it. It's basically that that was a part of myself that I said you're not okay. You're not allowed to express yourself in exists. And I shoved that part of myself, even though it was really a true part of who I really am. And so it took me some time to accept that. And I mean, the process, good God that unfolded before that happened is another thing altogether. But, you know, at this point, leave it there for now, you know, there's, but it was a very, it was such an integrative experience is that's what we're here to do is integrate, right, like to allow who we really are, and accept who we really are, and let that shine forth. Right. purposefully. And, you know, with a with a reason for being so. I don't know, I hope that brings it.

Jaclyn Steele:

Oh, that's so beautiful. Well, I think you're right, I think, you know, and I've studied ancestral trauma, and I'm doing a lot of like Akashic Record work, which I think is so powerful and so cool. But we do have these terms like ancestral trauma or complex, post traumatic stress disorder. It's not just post traumatic stress disorder. Now, it's complex, like so what does that mean? But really what I see it as is like, bullshit beliefs that either we have in our DNA, or we get from society, or we get from our families that we're carrying with us, and making decisions out of that if we can pinpoint that BS belief and turn it into something positive, it will radically transform our lives. 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But that seed of am I not good enough to even have somebody go, Hey, you left her out. That really affected me deeply. And then translated into me being an adult feeling like I have to constantly prove myself. And that is, I feel like now at 35 I'm so much more aware of that. And I'm like, I don't need to prove myself anymore. But for I would say the majority of my 20s and early 30s. I was in this constant state, whether I understood it or not a feeling like I had to prove my worth. And it's so toxic, and it requires so much energy.

Unknown:

It does. Yeah, I think we may even have the same sort of two, because rigidity is the other one that I kind of deal with, you know, which is an injustice wound. There's like, Yeah, I mean, it's it's interesting how we think we're not good enough. We just have different sort of excuses. And she points it out in his book and your body the way that you eat specific words that you say like I was mortified, right, like saying that is definitely from someone who has a humiliation wound. Oh,

Jaclyn Steele:

I've said that so many times. Yeah, I

Unknown:

say it all the time. You know, it's like this big dream.

Jaclyn Steele:

I got to read this book. Yeah, it's really good. I'll

Unknown:

definitely shoot you a link. But um, yeah, I highly recommend it. It's transformational. For sure. Can you

Jaclyn Steele:

speak on the rigidity, one because just personally, I'm really, I'm so interested in that, because I feel like, people probably perceive me as being like, kind of flowy and hippie and easygoing, but there is a part of me that is extremely rigid. Well,

Unknown:

that is kind of part of you feeling like you have to measure up in order to do something. Like if I don't do X, Y, and Z, if I don't work really hard, well, then I don't deserve to go on vacation, or whatever that is, right. Like this deserving. I won't buy a fancy car. Because, you know, like, that's just it's too, you know, I don't deserve that. I don't like our guy, something, you know, that's very middle of the road, and, you know, pretty reliable, and, you know, that sort of thing. Instead of being like, well, who cares? Like, just get away? But yeah, like, not allowing, not allowing yourself to have certain things holding things over your own head.

Jaclyn Steele:

Yeah. Yeah. Like not feeling worthy of happiness or pleasure. Like, I had a pretty serious eating disorder. And I think of rigidity. Like, if I was rigid to the extreme with my eating disorder, then just a week and a half ago, Sam and I, Sam, and I haven't to and here I am, like, proving that this is okay that I'm doing this, as I'm saying this to you, Sam. And I haven't taken a vacation and a couple of years, really, since 2018. And so we went to Mexico, and we stayed at this beautiful hotel in the jungle until bloom. And for the first like four days, I struggled so much because I was like, I don't know if I deserve this. There are people that are serving me and what are their lives like and I'm not any better than them and so I feel weird. So I find myself constantly apologizing and saying, Thank you probably overkill. And then I just got to the point where I was like, if I don't accept that I I am here and start enjoying this. I'm going to spend the whole time we're on this beautiful vacation apologizing for being on this beautiful vacation and what is wrong with me?

Unknown:

Yeah, I, I totally get that. And I have definitely struggled with that as well, I but I'm seeing it, it's so weird, I definitely do recommend the book because you do start to see the world through. And I think, you know, we could both have the same experience. Or two other people could have the same experience. And they interpret it sort of different ways to like through their own soul and what they're here to heal. And so, you know, in that situation, I've been in a situation to mostly from working when I was like working on, you know, the cruise ships and on all these, like, really fancy islands and stuff. Yeah, it was cool Coachella

Jaclyn Steele:

and doing like all these things that look so glamorous, but are probably such hard work.

Unknown:

Yeah, I mean, there was some hard work involved. But it was also I was I pretty fortunate and grateful and blessed to be able to do that sort of thing and meet those types of people. And that's when I really actually saw a lot of these principles in operation, if I'm being honest, just people having a great vibe, and getting work because of it, and getting really good opportunities because of it and working hard. Sure. But I mean, even, I mean,

Jaclyn Steele:

that's relative, because you can work your butt off. But if you love what you're doing, it doesn't feel like work.

Unknown:

If there's 10 of us, and one person works really, really hard, but he's just the worst to be around. And then another person, you know, works pretty good, but he's a joy, who are you going to pick to work with that

Jaclyn Steele:

delay?

Unknown:

You know, there's just, it's not even what you do. It's who you do it with? It doesn't even matter, really? So, there's so much to that. And I don't know, I wish I as something as simple and obvious as just feeling good in your body. I mean, I can't like I think we intuitively know it. You know what I mean? And but constantly the world is trying to get us to go into fear and get us to continue doing something,

Jaclyn Steele:

right, we need to do something different needs to be a different supplement. I feel like well, first of all, I want you to be able to round out that thought before I interrupt you, is there anything else you want to add? No, go ahead. I feel like being pregnant has been one of the most profound experiences, um, when it comes to being at peace with your body. And intuitively, unfortunately, you'll never be able to experience this, my

Unknown:

modern medicine will say,

Jaclyn Steele:

you never know. But I feel like it has humbled me like I am, I don't have nearly as much energy as I normally do. And I have to respect my body and listen to it. And the reason I feel like I'm respecting my body and listening to it on a whole new level is because there's a whole other being in here right now. It's not just me, but also intuitively feeling like, hey, somebody recommended that to me, but that just doesn't sit right. And I'm going to follow the intuitive part instead of what so and so is saying I should be doing, which I mean, if you dial that back, it's looking at the world through a state of love and understanding rather than fear. Like, if I don't do something, it's something's going to happen. And then but when we're little and we go into that fear, shame, guilt spiral. I feel like being pregnant has helped me decipher things so much faster. And instead of dwelling or researching a particular thing, like I would ad nauseum prior to being pregnant. Now I'm like, I don't really have time to do that. I'm just gonna go with my gut feeling and roll with it. I mean, it has really served me well.

Unknown:

I love that. I think that's great. Yeah, cuz I mean, if we want to reduce it all down to like, what's the meaning of life or whatever, it's to experience unconditional love. So whatever those blockages are, they're just going to have to eventually get out of the way. However many lifetimes it takes or whatever, blah, blah, blah, fancy words just love each other. Right? But that's really, you know, if we want to reduce it, like I think that's really it. So I think it's beautiful that you've been able to sort of, I won't say withdraw into yourself, but you know, sink back in maybe to yourself a little bit press in I don't know what the right word is. And that's been something that has been really on my mind too, because, you know, I kind of see our spiritual development in three stages, which is the first is the kind of deconstruction of this like old paradigm of everything we think we know. And then we kind of have to build these new connections and learn to think positively and to have a guardian and understand you know, the world through. Maybe I do different filter, and then opening up that space, once we've dealt with some of this trauma, and or hopefully all of it, or at least most of it, and gotten that sort of in order, all the stuff in the socket is so gorgeous. You know, that's the second sort of part. And then the third being opening up space to the Divine and healing, hearing your own intuition. And really connecting, I think we kind of have to develop in those three phases. And it's amazing that you're, you know, settling into that I think it's beautiful.

Jaclyn Steele:

Well, thank you. I feel like so much of my adulthood. And you know, Sam and I have been married for 11 years, people have been like, why haven't you had children yet? What are you doing? And I've had so much fear, I haven't wanted to lose my identity, I haven't wanted to lose my independence. I'm ambitious, there's so much that I've wanted to do. And this was a bit of a surprise pregnancy. But what I'm finding is, this little child already is teaching me to decipher between what is really important and what is not. And I feel like instead of holding me back, this baby's propelling me forward in a way that feels so much more authentic to my own iki guy from saying that in the right context, than before, where I felt like, well, I have all this I want to accomplish. And I have to do all of it before I'm able to do this before I'm able to do this. And I was thinking in such a black and white terms. And now I feel like I'm seeing things in color in a whole new way. And it's been such an eye opening experience.

Unknown:

That is so cool. Yeah, I can only imagine I mean, just the shifts in your body, you know, and the hormones and things that are happening, the processes within your body alone has got to be kind of a an interesting,

Jaclyn Steele:

talk about letting go like it, I was so afraid of the physical changes, because I mean, if I'm brutally honest, which I I'm always brutally honest with you, I can be vain sometimes. And like, I liked my body the way it was. And I was like, I don't want to gain a bunch of weight. What if I get stretch marks? What if I, bla bla bla, but even then, understanding like, my body is creating life right now. And it knows how to do that, without me telling it how to do that. How fucking mind blowing is

Unknown:

that? It's incredible. It is so

Jaclyn Steele:

incredible. And there's discomfort. Like, I didn't know what heartburn was before I got pregnant. And now I feel like I can eat a cracker and get heartburn. It's so annoying and like, sleeping takes me forever to get comfortable. But again, I feel like when I always in the depth of my struggle in my first trimester going, I am thankful that this is happening to me. I don't want to sound like I'm not grateful. But I'm really scared. I've always been fearful of having children, I have these Bs beliefs swirling in my brain. And God, I just started having a conversation with God, I was like, God, you allow this to happen. But why is it that I'm struggling so deeply with this, like, if you allowed it to happen should not be able to wrap my brain around it and create some joy around it. And what I felt God say was, Jaclyn, this is the portal into your next level of consciousness. That's not necessarily a comfortable thing. But it's going to be a beautiful thing. And after that moment, after I received that response, I was like, I moved into a state of acceptance. And that changed everything.

Unknown:

Wow, that's awesome. I love that. Yeah, growth is never easy. You know? It's just not that's but you want to grow. I mean, you can't not.

Jaclyn Steele:

If we're not growing. We're stagnant. And I feel like if we want to look like if we want to understand what stagnancy looks and feels like, all we have to do is go to the grocery store. Like there's so many people and I don't mean this in a judgmental way. You can just see it on their face. There's not joy there. There's not vibrance, there's just the sense of like, autopilot.

Unknown:

Yeah, it really is. And I think it's I think it's because we're out of alignment with our selves, right? That's what cognitive dissonance is, again, the blue let me blue collar missed it. Mistake it down for you. It's your heart is in one place in your mind isn't another you're out of alignment, you're out of congruence with yourself, and it's like a hummingbird. fridge in the background, you don't notice it until you notice it. And then when you do, you can't Can't you know, here is ape? Yeah. So, you know, I think that's part of the beginning of the whole process. And my heart goes out to anybody who's like, beginning that, because it's, I don't know, for me, it was really difficult to change the way that I viewed the world to discard those beliefs. Rebuilding was not as was not as bad, it can be a lot more efficient. I enjoyed it. It was a lot of disjointed, you know, parts of rebuilding the way that I view the world. But the destruction part was difficult. But it all starts it all. It's all worth it. It's kind of like what you're talking about, as you're going to the next level in your development. We all are, everybody's going to whatever that next level is for them. You know, no judgment, right? No matter where you're at, but there's going to be growth pains, no matter no matter where you're at. And we have to continue to follow through that path. That's how we grow. That's how we learn and get better. And, yeah, and evolve,

Jaclyn Steele:

ever evolving process, it doesn't need to have an end. So that's also why I feel like your unique experience makes you so suited for the kind of work that you do. So for people wanting to work with you who maybe want to take one of your classes or work with you individually. What are you working on right now? Where can people find you? How can they hire you? Where can they follow you online? Sure.

Unknown:

All that stuff. The head of the octopus for me is Bootsy Greenwood calm. My name is Owen hunt. But I go by Bootsy Greenwood. That's my stripper name. And it's a lot easier to find than the guy that's on Grey's Anatomy, like the fake character that kind of ruined my Google cred. So I'm just running with that my handle there. For now, what isn't actually a stripper, and I don't mean any disrespect to anyone who is a sex worker either. But Bootsy Greenwood, all platforms on tick tock and Instagram and all that I do some, some comedy stuff. And some, you know, empowerment stuff, I'm trying to kind of mix those together a little bit and having fun with it. Have a Facebook group called get coached, hashtag get coached. And I try to have a sense of humor about all this stuff, because it can be so intense and tense. And I think it's really important not to take ourselves too seriously. But if you go on my website, you can see the thing, forget coach, that's one of the links there. There's a couple sketches on there, some comedy as well. So that's the best way to get in touch with me. And then I have a YouTube channel and narrate audio books as well. It's also Bootsy Greenwood and I have some new things in the works that I'm really excited about. But I can't announce yet, but I can't wait to. So please do.

Jaclyn Steele:

Let me know when you do. And I'll make sure everybody hears about it.

Unknown:

Oh, no, I'm having. I'm having so much fun right now.

Jaclyn Steele:

I'm sure well, cuz you're in the flow. And I believe in you so much. I just love you so much as a human and I'm so grateful to be able to have this conversation, record it and share it with our listeners.

Unknown:

It's my pleasure. It's an honor. I'm so glad that we've been able to be friends for all this time. You are amazing. One of my favorite people in the world too. So thanks so much for having me on your show. And I will see you and Sam in February.

Jaclyn Steele:

Can't wait. Cannot wait. Okay, well, I'll make sure everything is linked. And again, thank you so much for being here, my friend.

Unknown:

My pleasure. Thanks, everybody.